DAN DOW [press conference]: The allegation against Ruben is that he helped to conceal Kristen's body after the murder was committed. Chris Lambert: I wish I knew why. Neither the ex-boyfriend nor Sarah saw Flores again until they read The Daily Beast story on Kristin Smarts disappearance, where Floress mugshot appeared. So had Margarita Campos, who lived in the next room in Muir Hall. I remember thinking he was right behind me in the doorway and I think he was trying to get to the door before I could shut it., Sarah said she was quickly manhandled by Flores. To declare to the public if you stay quiet, you will get away with this. Jonathan Vigliotti found Flores outside his home in Southern California and asked him a number of questions about Kristin's disappearance. Because of the statute of limitations, Dow says, Paul Flores can't be charged with rape. Like what may have been discovered in March 2021 when investigators searched Ruben Flores' house using cadaver dogs and ground penetrating radar. The living room had a TV and one sofa and the floor was white, she said. This is about the facts. Mike McHugh is the producer-editor. Lindsey Smart Stewart: Right. Her dorm entrance is right over here. The family attorney refused to comment when reached by The Daily Beast. Chris Lambert: Paul keeps stopping along the way and letting Cheryl Anderson know, you can go on ahead. Acerca; Prensa; In one of Paul's police interviews he mentioned that he wanted to be let out of the interview because he needed to help clean up concrete at his mom's house So, what was being done in Susan Flores's backyard in the weeks after Kristin went missing? She was looking forward to hearing from Kristin that Sunday. Margarita soon decided she'd had enough. Susan Flores's backyard has been the focus of widespread speculation. I was lying down on my back. In fact, Cheryl Anderson, who trusted Flores to walk Kristin back to her dorm alone, told police that her friends called him "Chester the molester," because he was known for groping girls. According to the defense, a forensics expert said if it was a grave, you would find hairs, bones, and a big change in the soil composition. San Luis Obispo County. But as Chris Lambert learned, Flores's pattern of behavior with women didn't stop. But Flores basketball friends told investigators that he already had the black eye when he showed up for the game. Just days after she disappeared, an incident report seemed to imply that Kristin's behavior contributed to her disappearance. ", Although suspicion surrounded Flores almost from the beginning, any hopes for an arrest were dashed in May 1997 when then-Sheriff Ed Williams made an admission to the San Luis Obispo Telegraph: "We need Paul Flores to tell us what happened to Kristin Smart so absent something from Mr. Flores, I don't see us completing this case.". We just, "do you know anything about it". They have not been able to proceed with the civil case while there was an ongoing criminal investigation, but that didn't stop them from following every lead and preparing for an eventual trial. That would be Susan Flores, the owner of the home where Flores is suspected to have buried Smart. That could have been me.. But Parkinson acknowledges it hasn't been easy. Chris Lambert: At that point I don't think they had ever dealt with a missing person, a possibly murdered person. They were giggling as they were dragging me, the now 39-year-old woman told The Daily Beast. Chris Lambert's podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in the decades-old unsolved case of Kristin Smart. Chris Lambert: He told those friends he just woke up with the black eye. Paul Flores, then also a 19-year-old freshman, had . Paul Flores did not have a car on campus, so Murphy surmises he had to have had help. Monterey County Weekly photographer Daniel Dreifuss shot these photos during yesterday's opening statements.#KristinSmart pic.twitter.com/Qlanj3fKK6. LOS ANGELESShe remembers being dragged down Elm Street as she vomited, propped up by a young man and his pal who snickered and cursed her. I would turn around and he would be right there lurking, the woman, referred to here by a pseudonym, said. She has not been charged with any crimes in connection with the case. And then months and months later, they'd reach back out and say, can you get us in touch with this person again? In a civil lawsuit, the Smarts' attorney claims that Kristin's remains were buried at one time on Paul Flores' father's property. Mary Lassiter says the earring she found in the driveway matched the necklace Kristin Smart is seen wearing on this billboard. Chris Lambert: Everything else, he took the Fifth Amendment. There was early mistakes made that you can't recover from when you're missing those vital pieces. One of them was Paul Flores, who, to this day, Kristin's family believes abducted and likely killed her. So before leaving, Margarita handed over her keys to get back into Muir Hall. Chris Lambert: And he says he got a black eye playing basketball with his friends. JAMES MURPHY: In May of 96 were you a student at Cal Poly? Bodega en Renta de $65.000 , 3 baos, 1100 m2 en Arroyo de Las Flores, Jalisco ID 26114512. In the meantime, Paul Flores moved to Southern California, where he bounced from job to job. Back in San Luis Obispo, the Smarts, feeling ignored by the sheriff's office, continued a relentless campaign to get them to do more to find their daughter. And that's what I've been doing for a long, long time, along with a lot of other people. When they were deposed by James Murphy, they also insisted their son was not involved. A woman nearby screamed at Flores to get off her and threatened to call the cops, she said. But it's Susan Flores's concrete backyard that initially received a lot of attention. Kristin Denise Smart (born February 20, 1977, legally presumed dead May 25, 2002) was an American woman who is presumed to have been abducted, raped, and killed at the end of her freshman year of college on the campus of California Polytechnic State University San Luis Obispo. Just very involved with their children. She was she was frantic I don't understand this, you know? Thats when everyone got involved, she said. The fact is, there is a lot of sort of evidence. I say that because you will see, when you actually listen to what comes out, its not what it seems to be, Sanger said. The only thing that she remembered next was being dragged in the barely lit street by her alleged rapist on one arm and his pal on the other. Two years later Smart would go missing and when suspicion quickly fell on Flores, Jane decided then and there that she may have been one of the lucky ones. The Kristin Smart disappearance: After 26 years, Paul Flores is convicted of murder. Flores claimed after walking Kristin back from the party, he went to his room in Santa Lucia Hall while she walked alone to her dorm. And these girls are inviting us out. How could she have gone out of town? It wasn't until Kristin's roommate returned to their dorm room, that Margarita realized Kristin never came home. It's, like, she has nothing on her. DAN DOW [press conference]: We don't have evidence sufficient to charge anyone else at this time. JAMES MURPHY: Do you have any information as to where Kristin Smart's body is located? People who were there have said she was intoxicated. But I've seen it. Get off her.. [emotional] I will go outside at nighttime and I'll look up at the full moon and I'll think that that kid's buried somewhere real close. But Sarah kneed Flores in the groin and kicked him in the shin before dashing off into the party. When Anderson looked back one last time at Flores and Smart, she saw that he was leading Smart toward his dorm, Santa Lucia Hall, not Muir Hall, the prosecutor told the jury. They didn't bring a forensics team. In 1997 when Paul Flores was deposed for the civil suit, the only thing he would confirm on tape was his name. He was staring at my face looking at me and he was enjoying himself.. Ruben Flores defense attorney is slated to deliver his opening statements when the two trials resume on Thursday in a Monterey County courtroom. Ann-Marie Christian: became friends with Kristin in elementary school. They took in soil, I assume, for some kind of analysis. After seizing an old car, digging in the back yard and taking evidence San Luis Obispo County sheriff deputies concluded their search of an Arroyo Grande home related to the 1996 disappearance of Kristin Smart. During one interrogation with campus police on May 28, 1996, Flores story changed about what happened after Anderson left. He had pinned her down and had his hand down her bathing suit groping her.. Laura said Flores worked a construction job while attending school but that he was very secretive and she suspected he was in college forever so that his mommy kept paying for his housing and classes.. A single woman's earring. In 2011, the Smarts hoped those boulders would become a little lighter when Ian Parkinson became the new sheriff of San Luis Obispo County. Jonathan Vigliotti: How did you know she hadn't been back? Lindsey Smart Stewart: She had traveled the world before she even made it to college. And it was only 250 miles from Stockton, California, where she grew up with Lindsey and their brother Matt. James Murphy: Somebody found an earring that they say was Kristin Smart's jewelry in the driveway. Greg Fisher and Michelle Fanucci are the development producers. Paul Flores spotted July 29,2017, in Food4Less grocery store located in Arroyo Grande, CA. Lindsey Smart Stewart: I think they're, like, carrying boulders on their back. So maybe he had a crush on me. In June of 1996, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriffs Office brought in four cadaver dogs to sniff dorms on campus. When The Daily Beast tracked Flores down outside his home last month, he didnt mount much of a defense. Later, he told detectives that Smart was walking just fine and returned to her dorm while he returned to his dorm. Still she stuck around until Flores allegedly laid his hands on her aggressively again. I'm going to go back to the dorms. The two girls walked to an area off campus where there were fraternities, sororities and residential housing for students. JAMES MURPHY: What is the name of your father? So, they did not immediately get a warrant to search Susan Flores's home. You just don't talk, and you get away with it. He promised the Smarts that solving Kristin's case would be a priority. And I was, like, "uh OK, fine.". Just days after taking over the investigation, the San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office brought several dogs trained to detect human remains, to the Cal Poly dorms. He invoked the Fifth Amendment 27 times. When he arrived she stayed at home while Janes father hightailed it to Arroyo Grande Community Hospital. By the time Cal Poly police began investigating, Kristin had been gone for four days. After almost 25 years of suspicion, on April 13, 2021, San Luis Obispo County Sheriff Ian Parkinson announced the arrest ofPaul Flores in the disappearance of Kristin Smart. In high school he was known as a loner. The investigation seemed to be hampered from the start by a series of missteps by campus police beginning with their assumption that Kristin was off having fun and ignoring worried friends who said she was missing. Like the rest of the family, Kristin was an athlete. It's fine. She told Lambert that after several months, the beeping stopped. Garin Sinclair: He never once turned to the Smart family and said, hey, we have an earring, we'd like to show it to you to see if it matches any of your daughter's jewelry. And she was growing as an individual. Jonathan Vigliotti: What toll over time did this have on your parents? James Murphy: To see them in custody was a feeling of great joy for me. He promised the Smarts that solving Kristin's case would be a priority. And for a few moments Jane came to and saw Flores having his way with her. Eventually they moved in together along with a male roommate in a two-bedroom apartment in nearby Lawndale. James Murphy: That suggests that something bad happened in Paul Flores's dorm room. or even her keys. As they soon learned, she had ended up at a party at an off-campus house. At least one, since The Daily Beast began reporting, said she has been interviewed by the San Luis Obispo Sheriffs Office. His parents have always denied knowing anything about Kristin's disappearance and insist their son was not involved. RUBEN FLORES: [long pause] We never asked that question. She left them only after he promised to take Kristin back to her dorm. Four months earlier, Kristin Smart, a freshman at California Polytechnic State University better known as Cal Poly had gone to a party on Friday, May 24 the start of the Memorial Day weekend. James Murphy: There has been no other suspect. But perhaps Mary Lassiter's most disturbing story was about being awakened very early in the morning by a beeping sound coming from the backyard. D.A. FBI via AP, File. PODCAST EPISODE 4: At 8 a.m. on June 19th, 2000, a team of sheriff's investigators knocks on the front door of Susan Flores's East Branch Street home. James Murphy: An eyewitness actually documented the fact that throughout the night that there was activity in the area of the underside of that deck. The Smart family. An earring that appeared to match the necklace Kristin is wearing on the billboard. JAMES MURPHY: Does your son have any information as to where Kristin Smart's body is located? She loved swimming and skiing. A popular true-crime podcast, Your Own Backyard, revived public interest in Smarts disappearance. Two days after her daughter went missing, Denise Smart got a call from Cal Poly's campus police. Lawyers representing Paul Flores, a man found guilty last year of murdering Kristin Smart in San Luis Obispo in 1996, filed motions last week to dismiss the jury verdict and for a new trial. Chris Lambert: It was never marked as evidence apparently. . Lourdes Aguiar is the senior producer. They were soon joined by another partygoer, Paul Flores. / CBS News. and I was like, "Noooo.". October 22, 2022 / 10:10 PM Garland testifies before Senate panel amid ongoing special counsel probes, Colon cancer rates rising in younger age group, study finds, Firefighter dies battling blaze in downtown Buffalo, mayor says, Prosecution wraps its case at Alex Murdaugh murder trial, Top McCarthy aide, House Oversight chair each met with Ashli Babbitt's mother, What to know about Shigella bacteria as drug-resistant strain spreads, Ex-Georgia star Jalen Carter was racing in deadly crash, arrest warrants allege, Fiery train crash in Greece kills dozens, many of them students, Bipartisan Senate group unveils rail safety bill in response to Ohio derailment, Sneak peek: The Disappearance of Kristin Smart. James Murphy: And it says wrongful death and then I put murder. Jane said she kept this secret for yearseven from her husband. He wouldn't answer a single thing. View the profiles of people named Ermelinda Thomas. "48 Hours" contributor Jonathan Vigliotti takes viewers inside the popular podcast and haunting case in "The Disappearance of Kristin Smart.". Prosecutors Think Paul Flores Tried to Rape Kristin Smart in Dorm Room Before Killing Her On April 13, Paul's father, Ruben Flores, 80, was also arrested and charged with being an accessory. Denise Pearce: The phone call never comes. First published on November 27, 2020 / 8:14 AM. Facebook gives people the. (No video or audio). A judge on March 30 ruled that the trial would be moved out of San Luis . The Arroyo Grande cops, Jane said, favored Floress story that she willingly drank and had sex that night. Chris Lambert: He actually hit his eye on his steering wheel in the middle of the night while changing his stereo. And the complaint has some explosive claims about what led investigators to focus under Ruben's deck in the first place. My heart dropped, she said. There was no change in the soil consistent with that.. In his complaint, Murphy alleges, along with Ruben, there were two other unnamed individuals. Jonathan Vigliotti: Was this case, given the evidence that was lost early on, doomed from the very beginning? San Luis Obispo County. Authorities made clear that they plan to use Flores' alleged predatory behavior against him. Includes Address (7) Phone (7) Email (2) See Results. On April 13, 2021, almost 25 years after Kristin Smart went missing, longtime suspect Paul Flores, 44, was arrested at his home in San Pedro, California, and charged with murder. Authorities arrested Ruben Flores after San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's deputies served a search warrant at his Arroyo Grande home. Any evidence that might have been there was long gone. This boy walked up to me and said Oh hey, you need to be careful of that Paul Flores, I think hes stalking you. Chris Lambert: So, if you believe Paul's story, he goes into his dorm room here. When they showed up, it was Paul Flores. James Murphy: They brought in the first dog and they'd had the dog go through the dorms. Any tidbit of information or recollection could make the difference in the recovery of our beloved Kristin., disappearance of another woman under almost identical circumstances: Kristin Smart. He was the last person seen with her. Margarita Campos: I was expecting her to knock on my door and be, like, "Oh, Margarita, you missed a rager. When buying cowboy boots, there are a few aspects to consider, such as how far up they go on your legs and their design. 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. Davis was helping Smart get up to her feet with Anderson when Flores suddenly appeared out from the darkness, Peuvrelle said. He says "no.". Paul Flores lives in San Pedro, CA; previous city include Arroyo Grande CA. I told her I didn't I didn't want to go. Paul Flores was lying through his teeth to law enforcement, Peuvrelle told the jury. Janes mother frantically phoned her father. But a massive search did not happen until she'd been gone for more than a month. D.A. James Murphy: they let the dog in, the dog makes a beeline to the bed of Paul Flores. Chris Lambert: I don't think she ever imagined that Kristin would end up dead by the end of the night. Last month, authorities searched Ruben Flores' home in Arroyo Grande. Then, in 2011, Ian Parkinson was elected sheriff. He says they are Ruben's ex-wife Susan and her boyfriend. It might be helpful to the investigation.. In the fall of 1996, a young mother named Mary Lassiter was looking for a house to rent in Arroyo Grande, California. SHERIFF IAN PARKINSON [at press conference]: Forensic physical evidence was located. Im fine. She was the last person other than Paul Flores to see Kristin alive. Susan's house was finally searched in March 1997 nine months after Kristin disappeared but nothing was found. But Paul Flores was never charged with any of these incidents. Ruben's attorney, Harold Mesick, dismissed the evidence against his client as "so minimal as to shock the conscience.". Just five months before Kristin disappeared, San Luis Obispo Police received a call from a student living off campus. Chris Lambert: So much was lost in those first few days where if that very first phone call was taken seriously answers might have been uncovered the first week. Had Flores been caught and convicted of his alleged sexual assault in 1994, perhaps Smart would still be alive. But Paul Flores remained behind bars help without bail. Now several women say they were victims before and after her, too. Chris Lambert: I personally think that wherever Kristin went, Paul was there with her. Stop! and then it became Stop!!!!!. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. Flores said he suffered the black eye during a basketball game he played with friends in Arroyo Grande on Monday. I was crying.. After they broke up, Laura did a little sleuthing and discovered her ex-boyfriend was accused in Smarts vanishing. Lindsey Smart Stewart: "You should go to Cal Poly. DAN DOW [press conference]: We have evidence that we do believe there are other people that are not yet identified that have had some kind of a criminal act perpetrated on them by Mr. Flores. Kristin Smart Murder Trial: Who's who The judge only allowed 1 media pool camera inside the courtroom. James Murphy and Garin Sinclair look at the billboard that has been in their front yard for more than two decades. Chris Lambert, who worked as a CBS News consultant, pieced together what he learned from people who were there that night. Balloons wrap around the Kristin Smart billboard in Arroyo Grande after the arrest of Paul and Ruben Flores in April 2021. There was no reaction until the dog reached Paul Flores's room. Lindsey Smart Stewart: It just amazes me the amount of evidence that's available, yet nothing has happened. They are aware that they had no eye witnesses, a body was not recovered, there is no physical evidence, and no forensic evidence, Sanger said. A break in the case happened in 2020 when sheriffs deputies wire-tapped the phones of Flores, his father, and his mother to record their private conversations. The backyard was all concrete except for a couple of areas where planter boxes had been created by cutting out the concrete and filling them with soil. James Murphy: I'm not at liberty to describe how it was documented. James Murphy: And it's 2:30 and 3 o'clock in the morning at Cal Poly this is not a a location from which Paul alone could easily move a body without a vehicle. And here's your key." It's been a long night for the Smart family and San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's detectives as they continued to investigate an Arroyo Grande property belonging to Ruben Flores. Flores defense attorney, Robert Sanger, told the jury, This obviously is a tragic situation in one sense or another. For more than two decades, her family, friends, and supporters searched for answers and for justice. Jonathan Vigliotti: There was a lot of evidence that could have been gathered, that wasn't. I dont like to talk about it to even him, she said. Paul Flores was the last person seen with Kristin Smart before she vanished in 1996. However hard she and her father fought back, there was no chance they were going to get beyond the he said, she said. I was drunk and he had a witness and I didnt, Jane said. Smart appeared to be under the influence of alcohol on Friday night. We were standing by the washer and dryer and we were arguing and he shouted, No! and slapped my arm, Laura said. 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